Those devilish little demons

 I actually went to my own exorcism in Brownwood Tx….to get rid of headaches caused by them. I get to the pastor’s house and he has a group of church members over. They sit me on the coach, then they went onto the rug, some with their legs crossed at the knee. Then they randomly began to say things such as ,Demon, leave John”. This went on for a long.long time….until I yawned. Then the pastor jumped up and said the demon came out in the yawn. Phew, but strangely the headaches continued….until I had my neck adjusted by Chiropractor. Those devious little demons!!!

Joyce and Angela

No way….critical thinking is the way, and no fears of going to hell. Just do what you know is right, you can’t go wrong. Read the Bible, please Joyce. You don’t really know what you saying.

 

John Ecker Joyce, read the NT horizontally….that is, read Mark first story first, then turn tio that story in Mathew, Luke, and John. No way this book real….too many discrepancies. But I know that rekigion provides structure, hope, companionship, a place to help others, etc….but it just a fantasy in your mind. I was part of such for 40 years so understand, but like Santa Claus, it’s just bs.

·Joyce Arns Diehl Feel so bad for you, John. Ever play the telephone game as a child? Ever hear the same story about the same incident from 2 different people? Notice some emphasize this and brush over that and others leave out this and add that? Maybe because we are all humans- including Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. God repeats himself with consistency- the big 10 never change. Keep trying John, you are smart. One day you will catch on to the truth.

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John Ecker Joyce, sorry, honey, have come too far to believe all that palaver. Please don’t worry about me, though, I really doubt that God is going to reward the most gullible, but instead those who used their brains the most later on. I’m not talking about Mat, Mark, Luke, or John perse above, but what you profess to be the word of GOD. How can such not be consistent. Look we both know we good people, not better than the other. I just do things because they are right, you have a motive. I give credit to my mother, you to a magic man in the sky, that nobody has ever seen. Tell me, Joyce, do you also believe a snake talked 6000 years ago to two naked people, or that a donkey talked, etc. Nope, right? Ever wonder about Mary in the Bible. Why is she so amazed when Jesus does something….she was impregnated by God. Tell me also how Joseph and Mary lost Jesus, and then realized he gone. What kind of parents would not keep their son right by them on a trip. Nope, Joyce, doesn’t make sense. I read this Bronze Aged book, you just go along. But you a good gal, I admit that, and your heart pure….but so is mine. That’s why we stick together.

 

Joyce Arns Diehl Snakes lost the ability to talk and to have LEGS when they were cursed by God after tempting Eve. The donkey was given a voice in Numbers to shock its owner for having beaten it three times, to make him realize the donkey was a living breathing beast and not a thing. An angel protected the beast and when God opened the owner’s eyes to see the angel, he realized his actions had been wrong. Back in the day, when the child was in a group where everyone was going to the same place or traveling with everyone you know, the children ran with everyone until called or needed. When parents couldnt find their children they worried and searched until they were found. The children were fine. And this was back when you and i were young and rode our bikes all over the neighborhood and sometimes all over town. In Jesus’ time, parents didn’t have perverts to worry about, nor children disappearing forever, especially Jesus, whose parents knew he was protected by God. You look at half the story John, and forget all the facts. You are a good man, intelligent, questioning. And i will do my best to explain the answers i know.

 

John Ecker Joyce Arns Diehl Phew, you one good gal….I’ve said that from the beginning, and will NEVER think otherwise. Tell me why God tested Abraham when he wanted him to sacrifice his son. Isaac, when he knew all along what Abraham was going to do. Why this drama, Joyce? Why gert made at Sodom and distruoy it, then let 6 million of his “chosen People” die in concentration camps., This God of the Bible makes no sense. Now, don’t think I don’t believe in God, I do, just not this scenario depicted in the Bible, just too man-made for me, Joyce. I’ve thought about all this too deeply to think God so petty, revengeful, nasty, bloodthirsty, etc, like he depicted in the Bible. You just ignore all this and go along….which is okay for you NOW, but too juvenile for me at this time. I don’t like grace either….it prevents justice for victims. Makes no sense either to think God needed to sacrifice himself to forgive our sins….what sins, I just don’t do any. I also don’t thing God is going to take the most gullible, but instead the most thoughtful people….akin to an bright kid in a teacher’s class compared to a butt kisser. Thanks for your complements, Joyce, you no piker yourself. Are you starting to get this, honey?

 

John Ecker Come on, Joyce, you think snakes lost their legs due to the Garden of Eden. This is what I’m talking about….juvenile, childish responses from you. Think about what I say, Joyce.

 

Joyce Arns Diehl I do think about what you say, John. That’s what keeps me trying to help you. you are wrong but don’t know it. I will keep trying to teach you.

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Angela Dees-Kendall I don’t care if you don’t belive John, you have the right to your opinion. But why does it bother you so much that joyce belives? I have alot of friends who are atheist or agnostic but they don’t feel the need to get on every post I make about God and try to make me not belive. That the beauty of believing in God, no matter what you say or try to make people belive we will still belive because that is what Faith is. I feel sorry for you because you seem bitter. You should learn to respect other people’s post and opinions.

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John Ecker Hey, Angela, did you ever tell your kids that Santa isn’t real? Please don’t tell me you actually feel sorry for me because such is not true. I’ve said this before, but here it is yet again. I deal in truth, not fantasy. Have you ever actually investigated religion? Have you ever read the Bible? Besides, I am relieved of the fear of going to hell. I just do things because they are right, and take or give no credit to anybody. My heart is soft, and that is what counts. I give to 5 different charities through bank draft every month. I just question things, and when I see faulty propaganda being put forth I point it out. I am not bitter…I am not an atheist like maybe some of your friends are. I just don’t believe that God is going to reward the most gullible, but instead the ones who use their minds to question. I’m not a kid, Angela, are you. If so, then don’t talk in church, like the Bible forbids….you only a woman you know….again the view of the Bible.

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Angela Dees-Kendall I have absolutely no fear of going to hell. My religion doesn’t give me fear, it gives me hope and love. And while your paying through bank to a charity, I volunteer my time to the needy. Soup kitchens, food give aways etc. I just don’t understand why you have to jump on every post. Her facebook page is for what she believes in. If you want to write all this on your page then go ahead that’s YOUR page. Your opinion belongs on your page, or in a comment where your ask to comment. But everytime I see joyce post about God there you are putting down her belief. Can’t you stay in your own lane and let her be with her post? I respect the way you belive so why can’t you do that for others? Why do you feel the need to be so negative all the time?

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John Ecker Telling someone that Santa is not real, is not being negative, it’s being realistic. Joyce strong in her faith. It’s for others I’m trying to inform. I really don’t like this doctrine that most Christian churches push sa=ying everybody born bad, sand nobody deserves anything except through God’s grace, the old original sin theme. People therefore need to be “saved” ….of course through the local church with tithing to keep the profession of ministers going. I don’t like the guilt generated by this. Watch Jimmy Swaggart sometime to see what I mean. You and Joyce feel good about your reliogion but millions feel bad. Plus the millions of people killed by religion I don’t like. If religion ruled this country, we would all be living in fear. Look at the Muslims right now with clerical rule. People never consider any of this stuff, and I just point it out….nothing more. Doesn’t seem to bother true believers, like you so how is it hurting anybody. Actually Joyce ios doing exactly what I’m doing, just opposite, Keep up helping others, commendable to get involved directly.

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Angela Dees-Kendall Getting on every post she makes and telling her that her religion isn’t real isn’t realistic. I have friends on my page who daily post about how they don’t belive in God and how it is ridiculous, but I don’t jump in every post, because I know it’s there right to believe how they choose. It just seems negative and rude to get on every post someone makes just because you don’t agree.

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John Ecker Hmm, didn’t know it bothering Joyce. She very strong, I feel.

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John Ecker Look at all the amens below. Nobody even reading my stuff. Why not point out an opposing, but legit position. Don’t tell me, Angela you believe in Noah’s Ark, or Jonah in the fish for three days, or the slavery condoned in the Bible. How can people just gloss over everything? Didn’t you know you twice as dirty as as woman if you gave birth to a female child instead of a female child. I bet yoi know next to nothing about this wonderful book you base your religion on. I read this book continually and am blown away by its content. Yet people just ignore it.

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Angela Dees-Kendall God bless you John. I will pray for you to not be so negative and rude. I don’t know what has made you become this way but I know it’s no way to live. You have hate in your heart, you can say you don’t all you want, you can say your just spreading the truth, but that’s not true. People who spread the truth don’t try to shove it down your throat if you don’t want to hear it. Obviously everything your saying to joyce each time you jump on her isn’t working nor will it make her not believe. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Have a good day.

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Joyce Arns Diehl As usual , john talks about happenings in the Old Testament before Christ was born. When HE came the world changed and with the sacrifice of his life man had a new beginning and our God gave us salvation and forgiveness of sins. But John doesn’t get it he prefers to live in the dark ages of the Old Testament.

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John Ecker Don’t get me started on the New Testament, Joyce. I know much more about it than the Old. It’s not like you think. Gee, thanks, Angela, I’m okay now….with your prayer. I’m seeing this as a parent telling his kids about Santa being a fantasy. You take it as negative, Joyce. The Easter Bunny is not real either, gal. Yes, I admit that Christianity can be a guide to make people act good, but also bad. Tell us all are gays and transgenders okay, or are they sinning….trying to be themselves. Are they condemned to hell by you ior your church. If you say no, then you the exception. I don’t have hate in my heart for good things, Angela, but I see both sides. You represent only the good side, apparently Okay, Joyce only stuff from the New Testament from now on. Tell us, firstly, Angela, where would you stand on Islam if you born in Iran? Would you condemn Muslims as bad, worthy of going to hell? Tell us please, using your Christian doctrine. Joyce, where would you be right now if you born in India? Don’t you both see that culture is what determines what you believe? Please tell us.

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John Ecker No way….critical thinking is the way, and no fears of going to hell. Just do what you know is right, you can’t go wrong. Read the Bible, please Joyce. You don’t really know what you saying.
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John Ecker Joyce, read the NT horizontally….that is, read Mark first story first, then turn tio that story in Mathew, Luke, and John. No way this book real….too many discrepancies. But I know that rekigion provides structure, hope, companionship, a place to help others, etc….but it just a fantasy in your mind. I was part of such for 40 years so understand, but like Santa Claus, it’s just bs.
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Joyce Arns Diehl Feel so bad for you, John. Ever play the telephone game as a child? Ever hear the same story about the same incident from 2 different people? Notice some emphasize this and brush over that and others leave out this and add that? Maybe because we are alSee More
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John Ecker Joyce, sorry, honey, have come too far to believe all that palaver. Please don’t worry about me, though, I really doubt that God is going to reward the most gullible, but instead those who used their brains the most later on. I’m not talking about Mat,See More
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Joyce Arns Diehl Snakes lost the ability to talk and to have LEGS when they were cursed by God after tempting Eve. The donkey was given a voice in Numbers to shock its owner for having beaten it three times, to make him realize the donkey was a living breathing beast aSee More
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John Ecker Joyce Arns Diehl Phew, you one good gal….I’ve said that from the beginning, and will NEVER think otherwise. Tell me why God tested Abraham when he wanted him to sacrifice his son. Isaac, when he knew all along what Abraham was going to do. Why this dSee More
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John Ecker Come on, Joyce, you think snakes lost their legs due to the Garden of Eden. This is what I’m talking about….juvenile, childish responses from you. Think about what I say, Joyce.
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Joyce Arns Diehl I do think about what you say, John. That’s what keeps me trying to help you. you are wrong but don’t know it. I will keep trying to teach you.
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Angela Dees-Kendall I don’t care if you don’t belive John, you have the right to your opinion. But why does it bother you so much that joyce belives? I have alot of friends who are atheist or agnostic but they don’t feel the need to get on every post I make about God and See More
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John Ecker Hey, Angela, did you ever tell your kids that Santa isn’t real? Please don’t tell me you actually feel sorry for me because such is not true. I’ve said this before, but here it is yet again. I deal in truth, not fantasy. Have you ever actually investigSee More
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Angela Dees-Kendall I have absolutely no fear of going to hell. My religion doesn’t give me fear, it gives me hope and love. And while your paying through bank to a charity, I volunteer my time to the needy. Soup kitchens, food give aways etc. I just don’t understand why See More
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John Ecker Telling someone that Santa is not real, is not being negative, it’s being realistic. Joyce strong in her faith. It’s for others I’m trying to inform. I really don’t like this doctrine that most Christian churches push sa=ying everybody born bad, sand nSee More
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Angela Dees-Kendall Getting on every post she makes and telling her that her religion isn’t real isn’t realistic. I have friends on my page who daily post about how they don’t belive in God and how it is ridiculous, but I don’t jump in every post, because I know it’s there right to believe how they choose. It just seems negative and rude to get on every post someone makes just because you don’t agree.
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John Ecker Hmm, didn’t know it bothering Joyce. She very strong, I feel.
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John Ecker Look at all the amens below. Nobody even reading my stuff. Why not point out an opposing, but legit position. Don’t tell me, Angela you believe in Noah’s Ark, or Jonah in the fish for three days, or the slavery condoned in the Bible. How can people jusSee More
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Angela Dees-Kendall God bless you John. I will pray for you to not be so negative and rude. I don’t know what has made you become this way but I know it’s no way to live. You have hate in your heart, you can say you don’t all you want, you can say your just spreading the See More
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Joyce Arns Diehl As usual , john talks about happenings in the Old Testament before Christ was born. When HE came the world changed and with the sacrifice of his life man had a new beginning and our God gave us salvation and forgiveness of sins. But John doesn’t get it he prefers to live in the dark ages of the Old Testament.

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John Ecker Don’t get me started on the New Testament, Joyce. I know much more about it than the Old. It’s not like you think. Gee, thanks, Angela, I’m okay now….with your prayer. I’m seeing this as a parent telling his kids about Santa being a fantasy. You takeSee More

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John Ecker Joyce, read the NT horizontally….that is, read Mark first story first, then turn tio that story in Mathew, Luke, and John. No way this book real….too many discrepancies. But I know that rekigion provides structure, hope, companionship, a place to help others, etc….but it just a fantasy in your mind. I was part of such for 40 years so understand, but like Santa Claus, it’s just bs.
Joyce Arns Diehl Feel so bad for you, John. Ever play the telephone game as a child? Ever hear the same story about the same incident from 2 different people? Notice some emphasize this and brush over that and others leave out this and add that? Maybe because we are alSee More
John Ecker No way….critical thinking is the way, and no fears of going to hell. Just do what you know is right, you can’t go wrong. Read the Bible, please Joyce. You don’t really know what you saying.
Joyce Arns Diehl As usual , john talks about happenings in the Old Testament before Christ was born. When HE came the world changed and with the sacrifice of his life man had a new beginning and our God gave us salvation and forgiveness of sins. But John doesn’t get it he prefers to live in the dark ages of the Old Testament.
Angela Dees-Kendall God bless you John. I will pray for you to not be so negative and rude. I don’t know what has made you become this way but I know it’s no way to live. You have hate in your heart, you can say you don’t all you want, you can say your just spreading the See More
John Ecker Don’t get me started on the New Testament, Joyce. I know much more about it than the Old. It’s not like you think. Gee, thanks, Angela, I’m okay now….with your prayer. I’m seeing this as a parent telling his kids about Santa being a fantasy. You take it as negative, Joyce. The Easter Bunny is not real either, gal. Yes, I admit that Christianity can be a guide to make people act good, but also bad. Tell us all are gays and transgenders okay, or are they sinning….trying to be themselves. Are they condemned to hell by you ior your church. If you say no, then you the exception. I don’t have hate in my heart for good things, Angela, but I see both sides. You represent only the good side, apparently Okay, Joyce only stuff from the New Testament from now on. Tell us, firstly, Angela, where would you stand on Islam if you born in Iran? Would you condemn Muslims as bad, worthy of going to hell? Tell us please, using your Christian doctrine. Joyce, where would you be right now if you born in India? Don’t you both see that culture is what determines what you believe? Please tell us.

Read the God Virus by Darrel Ray

You have a friend who did something negative to you. He comes to you to say he was sorry. It would be easy for you to just forgive him, but instead you say that you will instead sacrifice YOUR OWN son to torture and crucification….in order to forgive him. Yes, your son!!!. Does that make any sense to you….torture YOUR son as a way of forgive someone for doing something against you? Tell me how this would have anything to do with what you did? Well that is what Christians say God did for us. Instead of just forgiving us, he says, no, I won’t do that, instead I will send my son, Jesus, to be scourged, beaten, legs broken, jeered out, and crucified, and if you can swallow this as true, I will forgive you. Does that make any sense? Think about it. If you don’t get it, you have the God Virus affecting your insight, logic, and ability to think straight. You need the book, The God Virus, by Darrel Ray….Amazon

Wonderful Father, Abraham

 Yep, why would God test Abraham when he knew already what would happen. Why the hell we being put through this drama. I wouldn’t mind but too much suffering happening. Imagine a mother in Africa holding her baby as it dies of hunger….God’s plan, you know. This is all such BS.

Jimmy Swaggart

Jimmy Swaggart article here….then my remarks:

Yep, he casting stones all over the place, while cheating on Frances. He a fake, phony fraud. Watch him as he fakes crying, yet no tears. He has his whole congregation thinking they born without worth, except of course dependent on God, and Jesus for anything. He uses music to create spirit, then makes the people feel they saved….of course by being in his church. I often wonder, does he have a group of ax murders there needing forgiveness. Tell mus anybody, what do you do any day or week where you must feel pitiful like Jimmy makes you feel? What looking at the nurse’s butt, or not saying hello to your neighbor?

To Judy

Judy posted a graphic of pence saying we need to turn back to God.

i posted this: You mean like the Israelites did over and over in the OT? I was always amazed how they went back to pagan worship continually. For example, Moses leads them through a parted Red Sea, after all those plagues, then goes up MT. Sinai (which nobody knows where it is today for certain), spends the mandatory 40 days up there getting the 10 Commandments, and returns to find the people worshiping a golden calf. Does that make sense? Then what does Moses (God) do? He sets the Levities (priestly tribe….are you kidding me?) lose, and they kill 3000 people that night in their tents. Does that make sense, Judy. Look, you have never read the Bible, so don’t know jack. Sorry, but it’s true. READ THIS BOOK, then make comments.

 

Here we go again Joyce

John Ecker I have never figured out why people always saying “blood” of Jesus. This go back to animal sacrifices of those stoners in the Bible?
John Ecker But, Joyce, what about how God treats women in the Bible….like crap. For example, David had four wives. David lusts for Bathsheba but she married. He therefore has the husband put in the front lines of the army, and is killed. What does God do about this….he has David’s wives raped. What kind of crap is this. Or Job. God allows the devil to kill Job’s 10 kids….nice right? I just don;’t get this human sacrifice of Jesus either. What God was still mad that Adam ate some friuit, so God sacrifices Jesus….actually himself….to forgive our sins. Why all the drama, why not just forgive us, appear in the sky saying so, then go on. I keep asking this, but you keep saying Jesus died for my sins. What sins? I don’t do any sins….except use my common sense a little. You?

Easter BS

God in special ed. back then. He couldn’t reason. He has been tested every year since ancient times, though, to get out, but flunks continually….always killing or torturing his testers. Look what he did to himself….oh, I mean his own son….in the picture.

Okay, I give up, you not going to address my questions. Go ahead, Judie, continue on in the dark just ignoring everything you see around you////babies dying, earthquakes, famines, wars, rapes, all because Adan ate some fruit. Why the invisible act, Jesus. Why reward gullibilty as the main requirement to get into heaven. Why not just appear in the sky. Why a battle of Armagedden with millions dying. I thought you felt we your children, Nobody I know would do what you do to their children. Yep, go ahread, dear Judy, continue on and ignore all this. BTW, I have hundreds more questions like why could a womens hand be cut off for grabbing the gonads of a guy fighting her husband, or why Eve just stood there talking to a snake, I run when I see a snake, and did the snake have legs back then since God said he would have to not slink on the ground forever. The snake represented the devil back then….who created the devil, how did “evil” come into the world. Why did God allow the devil to kill Job’s kids….10 kids? That make sense to you or anybody reading this dumb post. Yep, just let everything just slide.

Cut the crap, God

My goodness. This is God’s will right?…., part of his plan to help her, right? Phew, I hate this kind of stuff. Makes no sense. Hey, God, appear in the sky….what is this invisible act you playing?…tell us you real, and forgive us. What is with all this drama of you…oh, I mean your son, being crucified. Just forgive us. Stop babies dying, people being tortures (usually by fundamentalists of various “faiths”, hey cut the cancer, the diabetes. I’d do rthat in a second if I weren’t what is fostered off as you.

Abortion is just plain wrong

But abortion condoned in other parts of Bible….a Bronze Age book written by nomads. Daniel, cut the religion stuff. One can literally almost find anything in it….usually by persons without good personal arguments. Abortion is just plain wrong regardless of what the Bible says. It also says you can have your son stoned if he disrespectful, and that Joshia could have his men kill ever person and animal in Jericho, but save the virgins for themselves. If you would just read this book, you would understand. I never use it with smart people, there are hundreds of examples like I give, but I bet you have never been exposed to any. ABORTION IS JUST PLAIN WRONG, whether you be Hindu, Buddhist, Baptist, heathen, or witch.