Yes, other countries are afraid of Christianity, but this no different that the way Christianity was in past. All this religion stuff is hard to figure. It used to be easy for me, but now, no. But just ask about it, and boom, watch your Christian friends flee…..you a bad person, even though you actually the same. This is what is hardest to figure…they afraid of you or something, or don’t want to hear anything….just believe without thinking. I doubt that God really likes blind faith.

Where I was as of April 2012….I farther along now

Here is a letter to friend back in 2012, about three years ago:

No church for me….I don’t believe in organized religion, but I do believe in God, and pray in my mind all the time…I don’t talk to myself, but to God. Fanny is strong member of Spanish church…she has blind faith like I used to have….that’s fine for her, but impossible for me, at this time of my life. Our kids have none of the guilt oriented beliefs I was inculcated with as a Catholic. They don’t do things to gain favor from God or escape his wrath, but because something is just right or wrong. 
But I understand why people need to belong to church, and I honor their choice. I feel I am still connected to God as strongly as ever, but don’t define him in human terms anymore. I don’t feel alone. I have studied many faiths and see how they are man-made, and subject to all the weaknesses of humans. I cannot merely overlook these and am not going to be a smiling phony and attend church and be part of what I consider to be a make believe world dominated by some guy the people think has more knowledge about something beyond the scope of human understanding.
I am very happy for you, Connie, that you are so happy being in a church, and hope you just stay the way you are….if that is your means of defining and dealing with the Supreme Being…and you gain hope and peace that way.
We are doing fine here. We have no debts, and live very simply. I have the kids to put through college now, but will dip into my retirement fund to make due. Fanny will be very poor after I pass on, and that worries me.
My mother is going strong at 89, and will probably live to 100….hope so. The last time I stayed with her, I noticed she didn’t do her usual 45 minute prayer at night where she prayed for everyone in the family personally. I was shocked because she has been a strong Christian for 75 years. I asked, Ma, why aren’t you there praying like always for 45 minutes before you go to bed?” She shocked me to the bone by saying….”Because it is all a crock of shit.”  I have never heard my mother use this expression. I frankly wish she had stayed the way she had been, but understand where she is coming from.



Well take care old friend. I am still the same guy who would get in the car and come help you immediately.



I am flabbergasted the way the govt has become completely dysfunctional…like John Adams predicted. We are in very bad shape, and the Chinese will beat our brains in. It’s their time. You and I have forcasted this for many years and it is coming true now. The fleas have all but sucked the life blood out of the dog, but there is enuf blood for you and I to have a good life, but things will get worse and worse for our kids, and grandkids. 



Love,



Isaac Newton Brown


 

Stuff about book of Job

Yes, I’m thinking the whole Bible just a collection of myths….ones that contain much bad behavior by God….but more amazing to me is how HE is construed to represent Good to many people…..people either young, blind, stupid, or full of false and unexamined faith. It just has to be a basic need for people to believe in something….maybe like I do the Bears. I’m still trying to figure all this out. The one thing I have learned here is that there are a majority of Christians who….like myself….have never sat down and read the Bible, or even questioned anything they have been fed. I am also amazed from being on this board to see so much rationalization thinking this whole belief system applies to them directly….a personal God. But I still believe something must have created all this….so I guess I am a deist, who just tries to live the Golden Rule. I feel that I am frankly a better person that most of these so-called Christians. But there are several that I admit are better than me.

Act like Jesus

Yes, Waco, that’s how I judge a post written by a Christian….does it try to express the attitude of Jesus. These are hard to come by….even by people who profess with all their hearts to be so.

Oldbear has come a long way. This guy Jstins goes back and forth between an insult and then a decent response….but he coming along too.

Hey, please know such behavior is not my task….since I don’t profess to be a Christian, but instead a searcher…. but I surely can spot one….and respect him/her truly….since it is so rare to find, as well as commendable. Jesus the greatest teacher in our western society, and to be like him is something not to discredit.

Life after death

Yes, there is none….a good reason not to worry about dying. Before you were born you knew nothing, and after you die you know nothing….unlike what a priest or minister will tell you….to keep you in line, and coming to his church….that is, his paying job. Think about it.

OR, please give me the slightest bit….even smaller if possible….since the beginning of time, that heaven exists….or hell for that matter. Go ahead, Pastor, or Pope, or Imam, give us one bit of proof.

1. Ben please tell me why GOD got so mad at Adam and Eve for not obeying him BEFORE they had had been able to partake from knowledge of the tree of good and evil. The Bible says AFTER they were punished, they then learned good and evil. Just seems a true father would not punish them so severely, and also everybody since for such an act from newly created persons. I don’t get it…if the Bible is the word of God.

BTW, this is only the first of hundreds of questions I have, maybe thousands. Can you stay with it. I bet not, but if you feel legitimetely this stuff is all true, you should not flinch.

Later:

Thanks for trying to answer this question. It bothering me for a long time. I know that as a father, I would never punish my own kids, nor their kids and everybody after for making a mistake….especially when they so young and lacked any experience. I’m thinking this all made up….or exaggerated.

I don’t see why a person couldn’t have a Bible study made up of answering such questions. Such is much better than just listening to somebody pumping out what paid church leaders are saying is true.

 

 

Yes, even the smallest would help me with this doubt….go ahead, just a shred of evidence.

Some religious questions!!!

He’s still seated on His throne. God bless Israel

Barb1

He’s still seated on His throne. God bless Israel

Here are my comments to above post on Facebook. Will provide answers later:

But what about the millions God callously killed in the Old Testament. Have you ever read this book? The vast, vast majority of people haven’t, or just the parts their priests or pastors use….but to read the whole thing is to show God in a bad light. I don’t like this, and I doubt God would be mad for me saying it. For example right before the pharaoh made a decision concerning Moses plea to let his people go, it says God hardened his heart, not to comply. Why is this?
 

Then there was this one:

Barb2

This is what I asked:

I’m wondering why God punished me for something Adam and Eve did thousands of years ago—before they had knowledge of what was right and wrong. Please explain simply, complicated, or any other way.

 

A letter to believers in UFO’s and conspiracies

Clark,

That I don’t respect what you profess. I am a complete skeptic and am continually examining myself for being naive.

Your world perception is negative so anything that verifies such, you will be attentive to, and attracted to. Thus conspirators have got your attention. Problem is they have to continually supply more data to keep their followers engaged. As an example from medicine, Dr. Oz started out giving good advice concerning losing weight. Then Ophra picked him up for a show. Now the guy must come up with more incredible health cures EVERY DAY. His stuff is spectacular and interesting, but not well researched and verifiable. I mean this guy day after day has an incredible product to endorse. HYe is losing credibility to me….being I am a skeptic, like you.

I have had you pump your predictions to me for years, and I frankly don’t know how many are true or false….and I bet you don’t either. The UFO and alien stuff is especially odious to me because I can clearly see it is false. The conspiracy stuff is a little more credible, but the devil is in the details….the stuff pumped out every day by Eick, and others, just too much stuff. That guy Art Bell was a real huckster, like mqany peiople you have found yourself, E.G. that dame who took over the Eurika Springs meeting. Come on, Clack, just like with religion, these people just want followers….like you do.

Hey, you taught me to be this way, and I am just applying what you preach…l.and I believe you really stand for.

BTW, I am waiting for your account of the UFO sighting. Doesn’t matter to me what your girlfriend says. I think you both saw something natural, and now would swear it was extraterrestrial. Funny to me how nothing has ever been deemed real by sany real scientist that is accepted by peers….and something that would reward the person with a Nobel Prize.

So, please don’t take any of this as personal criticism. MAYBE YOU ARE CORRECT….but I am skeptical…very skeptical.

Your pal, and always your friend. (hell who else will tell you this)

Some random thoughts about atheists

I don’t condemn anybody for their religion, nor say one has to believe like I do. I forgive everyone, and try to help….yet I am not a Christian per se, but neither an atheist. I’m just a guy who doesn’t swallow that Jesus was born of a virgin or that he was God. I doubt there is a heaven or hell….and there are people who would kill me for that. I really doubt anything would change….except the story line….if a tomb was found tomorrow with Jesus’s bones in it….showing he didn’t arise from the dead. Good people would stay good, and the bad would still be bad. This thing about morality coming from God is pure B.S…..to me.

There are those who believe like I do, as there are Christians, Buddhists, Shintos, Mormons, etc.

Actually how many of you believe in Quetzalcoatl, or the Hindu Gods. I don’t, nor do you….so we are all atheists to Gods not in our own religion.

So an atheist is not bad if he doesn’t hurt anybody, same as a Christian.  Just some random thoughts for what they are worth.